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Re: Re: Re: Re: VG - Uber revenue? TWLO loss is likely VG gain
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http://www.nojitter.com/post/240171954/vonage-amps-up-with-nextgen-nexmo-voice-api
"These bring all sorts of cost and quality advantages to bear," added Masarek, who said he believes Vonage's costs can be as much as 30% of what competitors without direct peering relationships charge.
30% of, not
You are right. I screwed up that in the earlier one. Here is updated before adjusting revenue up for Uber.
Scenarios:
Upside
Base
Low
Consumer Business
$680.0
$680.0
$680.0
VBS (ex. Nexmo)
NTM Rev.
$365.0
$365.0
$365.0
Mult.
4.1x
3.6x
3.1x
TEV
$1,496.5
$1,314.0
$1,131.5
Nexmo
NTM Rev.
$125.0
$125.0
$125.0
Mult.
6.0x
5.5x
5.0x
TEV
$750.0
$687.5
$625.0
SOTP
$2,926.5
$2,681.5
$2,436.5
Less: Net debt
($292.6)
($292.6)
($292.6)
Estimated equity value
$2,633.9
$2,388.9
$2,143.9
Shares outstanding
Re: Re: Re: Re: VG - Uber revenue? TWLO loss is likely VG gain
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Twilio was priced 100% above competitors on some services. Their network is not that amazing notwithstanding its name "Super Network". I guarantee you the pricing they are charging will not hold up. If you play... login to read the rest
Re: Re: VG - Uber revenue? TWLO loss is likely VG gain
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Nexmo will get big chunk of this - if not almost all. Nexmo offers far fairer billing practices and VG also has cost advantages over Twilio. I think Twilio will bounce back a bit from... login to read the rest
Re: VG - Uber revenue? TWLO loss is likely VG gain
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I agree it's significant and Nexmo likely wins at least a good part of the business, but there are two big offsets. (i) Twillio indicated that not only is TWLO multi-sourcing CPaaS, but they're looking... login to read the rest
Does Uber (for an example) need to do business with both Nexmo and Twilio? CPaaS players seem to claim many of the same customers. It would help to better understand if they provide complimentary or competing pieces... login to read the rest
Lukai,
Thank you for sharing this. I wanted to ask you smth and was deciding btw posting it in your idea thread or here. Evenutally decided to ask it here.
1. EBITDA margin for Business Segment in... login to read the rest
Thx for the writeup, and agreed on Lukai's excellent - a few questions tho:
1) Nexmo deal was majority cash - if they saw future path a la TWLO, why take this deal and have a... login to read the rest
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