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10/30/15 11:44AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Takeout Potential
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We have not been involved in 2015.
This squarely goes in the limited-value-as-standalone-waiting-for-sale category. They will sell eventually for significant premium to $3, but I have no idea when. And I see limited catalyst until then.
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RLD,
Fair enough. You and I agree. I have no knowledge of whether or not TMO (or anyone else) taked with them pre spin. And I always wonder whether spins intentionally do not talk with anyone... login to read the rest
RLD,
Two thoughts:
- I would say it is not going to be taken out because mgmt does not want to sell . . . so I somewhat agree . . . but for different reason .... login to read the rest
Re: Re: Re: Closing position above $5.20 for VIC purposes
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RLD + zeke,
We have lightened our position based on price move and news flow and no longer have a significant position. But like zeke, I agree that shorting is not warranted due to takeout risk.
Re: Re: Closing position above $5.20 for VIC purposes
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That's an interesting question, and one that I wouldn't have considered. After thinking about this for about 5 minutes, my answer is that I don't think HBIO is a stock you want to short. The... login to read the rest
Just wanted to comment on my decision to close my position here on VIC. The stock is up roughly 25% from my purchase price and about the same from the recommended price here. The thesis... login to read the rest
Zeke/Nilnevik, there wasn't much discussion about the short thesis but wondering if you can comment/refute as there's 12 days to cover so there's clearly a bearish thesis worth considering.
As for recent weakness, I wonder if... login to read the rest
Hi straw,
I thought Q1 was a bit of a mixed bag, but I saw nothing at all that makes me question my core investment thesis at this point. Sales were down less than 1% in... login to read the rest
zeke,
Any updated thoughts on why this is down to $3.85? The TEV is now $100mm, down almost 30% from when you wrote it up. Part of the selloff has been due to small-cap selloff, but... login to read the rest
On the tax front, I don't think the company has given any guidance as far as what rate should be used. Given that HBIO has not yet reported its first quarter as a stand-alone entity,... login to read the rest
zeke,
Thanks. You cleared up your accounting for me.
Can you answer my long-term tax rate question? low-20s?
And most importantly, do you have any feel for mgmt's willingness to sell in the near term? The CEOs background
Thanks for the question.
I prefer to look at operating cash flow / free cash flow rather than operating margins, as the company has a history of acquisitions that introduces a little D&A into the income... login to read the rest
Thanks for the idea.
- What do you think the long-term tax rate will be (after they use NOLs)? Based on similar companies and their own tax data, I am guessing 22%?
- Why can they achieve... login to read the rest
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